Support for multiple Features (multiple values of a feature assigned to one product)

Support for multiple Features (multiple values of a feature assigned to one product)

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Sep 04, 2013
Christian Kernbeis wrote
I'm currently testing your Prestashop store manager and will definitly buy it.
However, we have a module named "Multiple features" plus the approbriate "pm_advancedsearch4" in our shop.
We need this feature to assign multiple values of one feature to single products.
E.g a brake pad can be assigned to many motorcycles so the pad has a feature "Compatible Bikes" with multiple values like "yamaha500|honda350|aso..".

In the database this is done by multiple records in the "feature_product" table like
id_feature|id_product|id_feature_value
20|71|53
20|71|54
20|71|55
20|71|56

While this "multiple features" is essential for our site its impossible to bulk update this with any tool. This would be essential for >3000 Products + the ability to export/import per CSV.

So is there a chance that the Storemanger will support these "multiple features" ?

Best regards
Christian Kernbeis
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Sep 06, 2013
Alex Pryshlivskiy agent wrote
Thanks for your comment. I'll discuss this feature with our development team. Give me some time please. :-)
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Oct 11, 2013
Irvin Bowman wrote
I am currently using prestashop store manager with a prestashop store

What Christian is asking for is a much needed feature for our store, we currently have around 30,000 parts on or store and the time it takes to add and update every part with feature values one at a time is so time consuming that it is nearly impossible

Thanks
Irvin
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Oct 14, 2013
Alex Pryshlivskiy agent wrote
Multiple Features support is not so simple.
For example, if you need such functionality in the PrestaShop you need to buy additional module (like this http://addons.prestashop.com/en/bulk-update-prestashop-modules/6356-multiple-features-add-features-without-limits.html) in this case some changes in table structure will be changed by module. That's why it's hard to support unlimited number of additional modules with own logic.
When such functionality will be added to the PrestaShop - we will be able to maintain it at the level Store Manager for PrestaShop.
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Oct 14, 2013
Irvin Bowman wrote
Sergiy
I am using the module that you are talking about. I also am using a custom built module for year make and model I can edit the values on this by using mass product changer or csv import. The only catch is that I can not use the value as it displays on the website but rather a corresponding number shows up. This takes a little working around on an Excel sheet with some formulas but I can update product rather quickly with this workaround. would it be possible to view and edit the values posted by this module in the same manner?

Thanks
Irvin
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Oct 14, 2013
Alex Pryshlivskiy agent wrote
Irvin , Store Manager does not support third-party modules
We provide PrestaShop native logic support by Store Manager.
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Jan 22, 2014
Christian Kernbeis wrote
Hi Sergiy

While the multiple_features module is 3rdParty, the Prestashop blocklayered module (search) is working with multiple features right out of the box (native logic!!).
So there is no problem with incompatibilitys with Prestashop itself.

Best regards, Christian
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Jan 22, 2014
Christian Kernbeis wrote
in addition, there is _absolutely_ no change in table structure neccessary

The feature_product table stays untouched, there is no additional table neccessary (look at my first post)

However, if you _dont want_ to implement this function (it wont be that big affort) please say it clear.
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Jan 22, 2014
Alex Pryshlivskiy agent wrote
ok, Christian,
May I contact you personally to discuss your suggestion via email ?
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Jan 22, 2014
Christian Kernbeis wrote
Hi Dergiy,

Yes, of couse
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Jan 23, 2014
Alex Pryshlivskiy agent wrote
Christian, please check email.
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Jul 05, 2014
N L wrote
Hello, I'm really interested in the support of this module too... Is there any development?
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Jul 07, 2014
Alex Pryshlivskiy agent wrote
Hello NL!
Right now we have only 1 votes for this feature :-(
Dear customer, I'd recommend to vote for this feature if you want to speed up of implementation.
According to our Policy, we implement a new features according to the volume of customer votes.
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Jul 07, 2014
N L wrote
Done!

I mostly wanted to know what were the developments after your private discussion :) If there was any possibilities to see it implemented as it's a 3rd party addon.. thanks
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Jul 07, 2014
Alex Pryshlivskiy agent wrote
We provide core support of PrestaShop at the first. This is highest priority subject for us.

3d components support is not high priority task for our future sprint.
BUT....
We can change our plans.
It depends on number of votes and comments for suggestion.
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Jul 07, 2014
Irvin Bowman wrote
I would vote for this but have not figure out how
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Jul 07, 2014
N L wrote
Ok thank you!
About the vote, eMagicOne seriously needs to promote the possibility to vote, I feel not many people use it. Maybe say something about it in a newsletter? As you see from the message previous to this one, even people on the forum are not aware of it! You would have a better idea of what people really wants...


IRWIN BOWMAN: Look under the first message message, on the Left. there are 2 votes already. You just need to click the "vote" next to it :)
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Jul 08, 2014
Alex Pryshlivskiy agent wrote
One more important argument for us a number of comment from different customers in subject. :-)
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Jul 10, 2014
N L wrote
Christian Kernbeis/Irvin Bowman: Have you tried the module with the SM?

If yes, what is happening when you modify an item which has multiple associated to it (thru the BO)?

Does the SM leaves the multiple features ( "yamaha500|honda350|aso..") there or do they get overwritten every time you save a change on the item ( "yamaha500")?

Thanks
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Jul 11, 2014
Alex Pryshlivskiy agent wrote
I'm not sure about mentioned above situation.
Give us test access to store and this module and I'll let you know.
In regular SM does not leave multiple features for custom module.
But we need to test this variant.
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Jul 11, 2014
N L wrote
I would but I haven't bought it yet as I'm not sure how SM will react to it :) I thought they might have tried it already...

I think it's probably gonna be overwritten too :/

I will let you know if I put my hand on it!
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Jul 11, 2014
Alex Pryshlivskiy agent wrote
ok, it's up to you :-)
Keep us informed please.
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Jul 20, 2014
N L wrote
Ok, so I have put my hand on it and it does work good with Store Manager. Even when changing the other features, it doesn't overwrite the multi-feature one changed in the BO.

That said, I recently found that this had been discussed here: addons.prestashop.com/en/search-filters-prestashop-modules/6356-multiple-features-assign-your-features-as-you-want.html

And it shows again the problem with this forum, many suggestions comes and are duplicated because there is no easy way to see what have been suggested already (you know, people are lazy and won't search much). At least if the "recent/popular/new" would work, but they are not :( You need a better system to list the suggestions already made so people can vote for the one they really want or think could be good for them. Please have a look at this: http://feedback.ibearsoft.com/ A basic "category" sorting for suggestions is made and it's a bit easier to follow up. It could even be just a short list of the most popular ones for now, so at least we would have a basic choice :) *AND better explanation that VOTES does count above all and are important. Please, it's not clear to anyone! (you know it, you have to mention to everyone to vote their own suggestion!)* - I know I keep repeating this, but every time I come here I'm frustrated with it :/ I am happy to propose new ideas, and really want to help making this app even better, but you need to help us too :D

Thanks :)
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Jul 21, 2014
Alex Pryshlivskiy agent wrote
From my side I'll try to open discussion with our development team about this feature - ""multiple Features (multiple values" BEFORE next Release.
I guess it'll be closer to August 25th-26th 2014.
Please touch me via ticket again and we'll update this status before next development plan generation.
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Jul 21, 2014
N L wrote
Wow that would be awesome :D thank you Sergiy!
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Jul 21, 2014
Alex Pryshlivskiy agent wrote
great. Please update this ticket closer to this date- Aug. 25-26 again to rise this subject again.
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Jul 21, 2014
N L wrote
Count on me!

(does this mean that the actual July release has been reported for one more month?)
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Jul 22, 2014
Alex Pryshlivskiy agent wrote
We are going to finish current Release of PrestaShop Store Manager this week or next week before July 30.
Next development plan will start in August- September 2014
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Aug 25, 2014
N L wrote
Right on time, here is your reminder :)
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Aug 25, 2014
Alex Pryshlivskiy agent wrote
Hello NL!
Just got back from vacation.
Take a break to study the situation.
Give me some time to update status of subject.
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Aug 26, 2014
N L wrote
Good for you and wo worries, take your time! I hope you had a great time!
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Sep 14, 2014
Radu wrote
I would _immensly_ appreciate the possibility to use Multiple Values for Features. If value Position could be controlled , similarly to Category Position, that would be AWESOME ! My main shop, www.winerepublic.ro has blended wines, and sometime Cabernet Sauvignon grape is the major part, other times Merlot is, [ while both are present in the blend ]. That would be relevant to consumers to know right order.
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Sep 14, 2014
N L wrote
Any news on this request?
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Sep 15, 2014
Alex Pryshlivskiy agent wrote
We are working on another special task.

By the way - we need to test online store with this module (Multiple Features Addon) .
The main problem for us - we can't organize 100% support of whole list of all modules with Mutliple Features.
It'll be good to organize small rating of modules by customers.
The main question - what's the most popular module for customers?
For example:
http://addons.prestashop.com/ru/search-filter/6356-multiple-features-assign-your-features-as-you-want.html
or
http://addons.prestashop.com/ru/front-office-features/8196-multiple-features-for-products.html

your variant ?
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Sep 15, 2014
Radu wrote
Hi Serg,

I will gladly give you access to my store. send me a message when you start needing it. As to the module, I think is not much of a module, because I use this free override from Presta Forum. It works well. I think Presta accepts natively multiple feature value, it is just the matter of making it checkbox not dropdown. But maybe I am wrong, because I am not programmer.
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Sep 15, 2014
Alex Pryshlivskiy agent wrote
Thanks for quick response Radu.
You can contact me directly via email - kibi@emagicone.com
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Sep 15, 2014
N L wrote
I have tried both and http://addons.prestashop.com/ru/search-filter/6356-multiple-features-assign-your-features-as-you-want.html is the best one and I am pretty sure saying its the most popular one

The other one has extra functions which are not well implanted yet and they have a terrible customer service.


Presta-Module is definitively a better choice :)
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Sep 15, 2014
N L wrote
And as other said, I am not sure you need to manage any 3rd party module themself. Those module only add the different values in the database field as Christian Kernbeis wrote earlier:

id_feature|id_product|id_feature_value
20|71|53
20|71|54
20|71|55
20|71|56
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Sep 15, 2014
Alex Pryshlivskiy agent wrote
You are right, NL.
We can't support all modules every time.
Store Manager for PrestaShop works with core logics of engine.
The implementation of such feature :
id_feature|id_product|id_feature_value
20|71|53
20|71|54
20|71|55
20|71|56

is more available :-)
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Sep 15, 2014
N L wrote
Awesome, I can't wait to hear what the development team thinks about it :D
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Sep 16, 2014
Alex Pryshlivskiy agent wrote
I will able to update status of suggestion after commercial release of current program. :-)
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Nov 06, 2014
Radu wrote
on beta , released this morning, works perfekt. congrats Serg & Devs !
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Nov 07, 2014
Alex Pryshlivskiy agent wrote
Hello Radu, dear customers!
Thanks for suggestions and comments!
Official Release will be available in 1.5 week I guess. :-)
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Nov 14, 2014
Alex Pryshlivskiy agent wrote
This suggestion has been implemented in version 2.15.2.1000 of Store Manager for PrestaShop